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Let's start with history, shall we? I have been a fan of Star Trek since I was three years old. I have cherished memories of watching it with my father a"h during the original run - specifically, I remember the intro to "Operation: Annihilate", when Kirk talks about his brother. When it was shown nightly on WPIX (channel 11) I'd miss half of dinner so I could watch it. I read any and all books, I memorized titles and plots, and I can still identify any episode in moments.

By the time I was eleven, I was writing fanfic for it. By the time I was twelve, I'd had my own alternate universe. And I drew pictures, too. The only thing I didn't do was slash it - I saved that for Starsky and Hutch, although I think the episode "The Empath" is what made me the slash fan I am.

I loved NextGen. I adored DS9. I watched about half of Voyager, and slashed it in public. I could not watch Enterprise. I watched all the movies except Nemesis. Some were dreadful; some were wonderful. V never happened.

I have never loved it uncritically - I love it too much for that. Because I do love it. But it was getting old and I was less and less enthralled by the newer entries.

And Thursday night, I fell in love all over again.

Chris Pine (aside from the beautiful blue eyes that should have been hazel) was perfect as Kirk - brass, impulsive, honorable, and after anything he can get. He wasn't quite the Kirk we knew - but he isn't supposed to be. He's younger than Kirk Prime was when we met him and he's had a different life.

Zachary Quinto was Spock. No more, no less. Again, not Spock Prime, but still very Spock.

Zoe Saladana was Uhura as she was supposed to be - I hope Nichelle Nichols is proud. I love that we met her as a competent, intelligent woman not to be messed with or insulted - that she speaks multiple languages and tops her class in her speciality - and THEN discovered she was dating Spock. And I really loved that - she and Spock worked well together. Maybe it will last, maybe it won't and they'll be adult about it, but right now they're together and it's good.

Karl Urban, in the way, WAS McCoy. It was a bit over the top, but we could see how his deep friendship with Spock began. (Also with Kirk, but that was easier.)

As for the rest of the cast - oh, yes. Chekov was his own problem - but the actor is the son of Jewish immigrants from Russia, and he was just as puppydoggish as Chekov was. I do have a quibble, but I'll get to that later. John Cho - oh, they made the fencing relevant, instead of joke. YAY! Simon Pegg WAS Scotty. Ben Cross was Sarek. Bruce Greenwood's Christopher Pike was everything he should have been - the role model *this* Kirk needed.

And while I wasn't enthralled with the Romulan plot, one thing made me very happy - that Nero wasn't a starship crewmember, wasn't a member of the military in that very militaristic culture. He was a *miner*, earning a living for his family. We don't see those - we never see those. We never see the school teachers or the cooks or the people who fix the roads. The overarching plot doesn't allow for that normally. But we did this time. And that's just very good.

As for the heart of the matter - I like the reboot. I like the changes (well, except for the loss of Vulcan and the loss of Amanda. Can't be happy about either of those - but, oh, won't that make the future interesting.)

Before we knew that things had changed, I was picking at nits - how could Uhura be *older* than Kirk and yet still a lieutenant while he's a captain? What happened to Gary Mitchell? To Finnegan? To the shiny cadet uniform Finnegan wore in "Shore Leave"? What happened to Kodos?

But the change - killing George Kirk - makes those things disappear. Note that the major part of the movie happened twenty-five years after George died and Jim was born. Which means Jim was 22 years old when he joined the Academy. Jim Prime joined when he was 17, following in the footsteps of the father who raised him. Five years makes a huge difference - he doesn't meet Gary, he doesn't encounter Finnegan (and the uniforms could certainly change) and it's entirely possible that Uhura is four years younger but follows a career path that doesn't lead to superfast promotions. And 14 year old Jim Kirk was stealing his stepfather's antique car in Iowa, not doing whatever he was doing on Tarsus V. It all WORKs.

(EDIT: according to canon, Jim Prime met Gary when Gary was a cadet and Jim Prime was an instructor. That means at LEAST five years. So they might have been classmates, but this Jim has already met McCoy, and he's a somewhat different person. Which also explains no Gary.)

What doesn't work is Chekov. Not the curly blond hair. Not the fact that he wasn't around first season - that's in the other universe anyway, and nine years later. No, it's the timeline itself. Chekov Prime is 22 to Kirk Prime's 34. That's a twelve year age gap. If Chekov is 17, Kirk has to be 29, but he isn't - he's 25. Which would make Chekov 13, and he's clearly not. And that makes my head hurt.

However, now we have a Kirk who is still a bit rebellious and VERY young working with Spock (as it's meant to be) on the Enterprise, a Spock who not only has a relationship, but is on speaking terms with his father - and grieving for his planet and his mother. (Still not happy about those.) And I have absolutely no idea what the future for *this* universe will be, or how things will play out if they do encounter any of the same problems, and that makes me very happy and very hopeful.

As for the slash - I can see it but I don't need it for this incarnation of Trek, and that's just fine by me, too.

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Date: 2009-05-10 03:43 pm (UTC)
ellen_fremedon: overlapping pages from Beowulf manuscript, one with a large rubric, on a maroon ground (Default)
From: [personal profile] ellen_fremedon
Since Chekov was born well after the timelines diverged, I don't see why he has to be the same age he is in timeline prime.

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Date: 2009-05-10 05:54 pm (UTC)
laurajv: What Would Mirror Spock Do? (star trek mirror spock)
From: [personal profile] laurajv
He might be a different person -- it's just those parents were always going to name their firstborn "Pavel". He's got this darkhaired younger brother, age 13, see, named Evgeni....
Edited Date: 2009-05-10 05:55 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-05-10 06:36 pm (UTC)
laurajv: Rock Out With Your Spock Out (rock out)
From: [personal profile] laurajv
That might bother me less than you for the simple reason that I've got 4 sisters, and between the 5 of us, we've got about 2.75 personalities.

My youngest sister is so much like me that I call her Mini-Me (which is funny because she's also about 6" taller than I am): there are some *extremely* minor differences between us, but a stranger would find it difficult to tell me-at-18 apart from her-at-18. The resemblance is so marked that longterm friends of mine meet her and tell me how creepy it is because it gives them flashbacks to me at her age.

(eta: I just asked Nat about this, and he said "Oh, no way a stranger could tell you and [youngest sister] apart at the same age like that. And they'd have moderate difficulty telling either of you apart from [middle sister]. Once you get to know her, you can tell her apart, but it's really hard at first.")
Edited Date: 2009-05-10 06:45 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-05-10 07:14 pm (UTC)
laurajv: What Would Mirror Spock Do? (star trek mirror spock)
From: [personal profile] laurajv
Yeah -- I immediately thought, well, based on what Deb's told me of her sibs, of COURSE that would bug her; and based on what goes on with MY sibs, of COURSE it would not bug me.

(There are 7 of us total, and 2 clusters of 3 individuals with major overlap. Only 1 sibling has a personality distinct enough to be easily distinguished from the 2 clusters, and each cluster has 2 people in it so congruent that they are nearly indistinguishable. Possibly we are a collection of GIGANTIC FREAKS.)

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Date: 2009-05-10 06:29 pm (UTC)
ellen_fremedon: overlapping pages from Beowulf manuscript, one with a large rubric, on a maroon ground (Default)
From: [personal profile] ellen_fremedon
That might be the most beautiful fanwank to come out of this movie yet.

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Date: 2009-05-10 06:37 pm (UTC)
laurajv: Rock Out With Your Spock Out (rock out)
From: [personal profile] laurajv
Now I want to read all about Pavel and Evgeni, the Flying Chekov Brothers!

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Date: 2009-05-10 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lady_stiletto
I loved the movie so so much, Deb, and a lot of what you loved about it is also what I loved (and we had the same major qualm about Vulcan and Amanda). I wasn't expecting to fall back in love with my first-ever fannish show, but that's exactly what I did yesterday, and it feels *glorious*.

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