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We were invited to Shabbat dinner tonight, which meant I had to think about lunch. Normally, my Shabbat lunch is some version of Shabbat dinner, reheated in a halachically correct way, but no dinner makes that hard.

I could have made half a Shabbat dinner - chicken, kugel, veg - and served that as usual, but. No.

Instead, I made shepherd's pie - or my version of it. It's certainly not authentic, what with the general lack of lamb or mutton.

The filling:

1 pound of ground beef - I like using half chuck and half shoulder so I get a good balance of fat and lean.
One bermuda onion
One red pepper
Pepper, bay leaves, balsamic vinegar, water

I brown the ground beef with a touch of black pepper and put it in a strainer to get rid of any extra fat. Then I sauté the chopped onion and pepper until soft, adding salt, black pepper and vinegar, plus water to make sure it doesn't burn. When the vegetables are cooked and most of the liquid is gone, I combine the two.

The crust:

I cheat here. I take a pound or so of white skin potatoes, and cut them into eighths or so - very small. I do NOT peel them. Then I put them in a microwave safe bowl with about a cup of water plus some salt and pepper, cover them and microwave on HIGH for ten minutes. I let them cool a bit and then I mash them, adding water (preferably but not necessariy hot) if necessary, plus additional salt and pepper.

Notice - no margarine and no soy milk. Just water. This is actually the way I make my mashed potatoes normally, except I might add a couple cloves of garlic in with the potatoes. White skin potatoes cook up very creamy and I find I do not miss the fat at all.

I give the potatoes a final beating with a fork.

I put the meat/veggie mixture into a casserole and cover the top with the potatoes. Tomorrow, it goes into the oven I will leave on over night (except for the timer that will shut it off around midnight and on around 9AM) and will be warm for lunch.

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Date: 2007-12-16 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llennhoff.livejournal.com
Is leaving the pie in the oven w/o heat for 8 hours really safe? What temperature is it reheated to?

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Date: 2007-12-16 02:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
I reheat dry food, so it (as well as everything else I reheat on Shabbat) spends the night in the fridge. We don't like the taste of food kept warm overnight - yes, that includes cholents, so I rarely make them.

My oven is kept at 200°F.

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Date: 2007-12-16 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llennhoff.livejournal.com
That makes sense - I was just worried that you were leaving it in the oven overnight. We also reheat dry food - we just don't turn the oven off.

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Date: 2007-12-18 07:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
We were advised by a stove repairman, after we replaced the igniter for a second time, to not let the stove be on overnight.

Also, it does save on gas.

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Date: 2007-12-18 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llennhoff.livejournal.com
The psak we got when we asked doesn't allow us to use a timer to turn an oven or hotplate on. It does allow us to turn it off. We know people who have received psaks that do allow it, so I'm not implying anything about your practice. So far we haven't had igniter trouble. We also haven't had problems with self-cleaning once a week, which I've also been told might be a bad idea.

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Date: 2007-12-18 07:55 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
It may be a different psak if there is actual food involved. This timer lives on our stove all the time, if that makes a difference. Even if we don't reheat food, it's there - it doesn't turn the oven on so we can reheat the food.

Honestly, we didn't think it was something to ask about.

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