Oh, dear. Not again.

[mamadeb]

If you have a paid account, keep paying it. Or don't use non-payment as a reaction. Use it as a weapon. "If you continue with this, I will cease paying." Using it as a reaction doesn't help anything. Let the LJ PTB know that you're unhappy.

As for those moving - why? Do you really think that the other social interactive sites are immune? Do you really think that Warner Brothers/Scholastic won't contact GJ or IJ or whoever with the same demands? Do you really think those sites won't fold under threat of lawsuit, too? Because, seriously? That doesn't make sense.

(As for those who are saying, "Another weekend when the HP fen are distracted by a convention!" Find me a weekend this summer when that's not true. Oh, yeah. July 21. :) )

HP fen are being targeted because that's the most visible fandom in the world right now.

Do I support this? NOT AT ALL. Do I agree with their options? NOT AT ALL. Does what I have to say mean anything? Sadly, no. My permanent account has earned out.

I have backed up my fic journal. If LJ folds, mamadeb or mamadeb1963 will find where most people have gone and follow. But I've built up a network I love here, and I don't think I'll get it someplace else.

ETA: Thank you to the people who know the law and responded here.

Comments

[letmypidgeonsgo.livejournal.com]

(here via mf)

If you have a paid account, keep paying it. Or don't use non-payment as a reaction. [...]

As for those moving - why? Do you really think that the other social interactive sites are immune? Do you really think that Warner Brothers/Scholastic won't contact GJ or IJ or whoever with the same demands? Do you really think those sites won't fold under threat of lawsuit, too? Because, seriously? That doesn't make sense.

1) i know you're obliged to stay, either b/c of your perm acct, or friends here, or whatever, but i don't understand your 'oh, just keep paying' advice
2) right now i don't think something like this potentially happening on GJ or IJ is the important - the point in leaving LJ for greener pastures is that users feel betrayed and want to get away from the service that wronged them as members of fandom, paying customers, etc
3) i haven't seen any evidence whatsoever to suggest that any company with copyright etc on HP was responsible for these deletions. even if they were, i can't imagine such an entity would demand the deletion of an entire journal, just the removal of the specific art

[mamadeb.livejournal.com]

Keep paying, or you'll lose your voice - LJ has no reason to listen to you if you don't feed them. They're a business - they want assets. People who don't pay are liabilities, and they will want you to go.

On the other hand, *threaten* to be a liability - "If you don't change this policy, I *will* stop paying" - and they will listen to you.

I wasn't being complacent. I was giving advice in how to stay in the fight.

I'm now leaning to the idea that it was an inside job, as per fanaddict's post (http://fanaddict.livejournal.com/10236.html), that was handled EXTREMELY BADLY by LJ/6A. I am NOT absolving LJ of any fault, but given that the artwork was a year old and in a friendslocked community, and that other, more explicit art in that and other fandoms has not been so treated, I think the evidence goes in that direction. That said, LJ/6A handled it in the worst possible way, and now they're panicking and we're panicking, and everything is being made worse.

And as I said in an earlier post, panic mode (for that matter, angry mode) is just not the time to make any permanent decisions.