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I'm working on an essay about second fandoms. I need some data points. Can you spread this around?



[Poll #735407]


Oops. Age of *Sail*. Sorry.
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Date: 2006-05-24 06:34 pm (UTC)
ext_3579: I'm still not watching supernatural. (Default)
From: [identity profile] the-star-fish.livejournal.com
I wanted to say ST:TOS for the first slash fandom, but I didn't really know what slash was then ... I still say The Price of the Phoenix was pro-slashfic, though.

My "other" for how I found slash ... I found the SN archive and there were way more stories on the slash side, so I started reading them, and went "Oh! Other people like this, too? I thought it was just me!"

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Date: 2006-05-24 06:36 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Oh, goodness.

Vulcans in jeans and cowboy hats? Spock carrying a near naked Kirk everywhere?

Purest slash.

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Date: 2006-05-24 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
Duh! I didn't think to myself that this is a live action poll! *feels stupid* OK, cancel my answers.

*crawls off in shame*

(But I like Law and Order SVU slash...)

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Date: 2006-05-24 06:37 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
you can change them.

Click on the link to the poll page and just change your answers.

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Date: 2006-05-24 06:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reginagiraffe
The first *story* I read was ST:TOS. A woman I worked with was taking a gender course and it was one of the assigned readings. I was all titilated and did some on-line searching. I read a lot more ST:TOS stories but I still say my first *fandom*, the fandom I joined lists for and wrote for and got really involved in, was DS.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:09 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
You know, you're messing up my research. Only, not. All data are good data.

First story I read that I hadn't written was Blake's 7. This is why I said
"However you define 'first.'" Because we all have our own stories.

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Date: 2006-05-24 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devildoll.livejournal.com
I got into slash because in the past I tended to have a One True Character in each of my fandoms, and happily read any kind of fic with that character in it. Also, in some of my fandoms, there hasn't been a whole lot of fic written for my preferred het ships, so if I wanted to read about, let's say Batman, I was going to have to read about him with one of the Robins, because almost no one was writing him with Catwoman or Wonder Woman.

None of this applies to my current fandom (SGA) which is the first fandom in which I would say I am truly a slasher, as opposed to an all-opportunity reader.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:10 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Which is another variation of "ran out of the other stuff", I guess.

The comics pair Bruce with Selina or Diana, so we don't have to (although I still think he has more chemistry with Harvey Dent.)

SGA. :)

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Date: 2006-05-24 06:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ngaio
I can't quite remember how I got into slash. Or at least, I can't remember *why*! I'd been seeking out and reading Buffy het (Spike/Buffy, Willow/Giles) and I know I'd vaguely seen Xander/Spike story listings and thought 'erm, no, why?'! But then I know the first story I ever read was Sidelines by Anna S ([livejournal.com profile] eliade) which was *right*, both in hotness and in canonability (if that's a word, which it's not!). So then I sought out more, namely Chocolatey Goodness. I think I must have been going off a recs list somewhere. So I think my answer to 'how did you get into slash fandom' is probably 'by accident'!

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:11 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Nod. I'm finding this intersting. So, when you read your first slash, it was, "That's it"?

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Date: 2006-05-24 07:00 pm (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
I was brought into slash with the Sith Academy. It lured me in with the hilarious crackfic, and I stayed for the slash.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:11 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Sith Academy. Oh, yeah. That would do it.

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Date: 2006-05-24 07:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ratcreature
I checked "yes" for being as slash fan, but I've never been primarily a slash fan or into a source just for slash. With TS I read gen and slash equally and in my current fandoms I read gen, slash, het and even femslash as long as it's with my favorite character (less femslash because my favorite characters tend to be male).

I don't think I have a main fandom atm, and couldn't pick which one I'm most interested in from a slash angle, as that is not my main approach to any fandom, so I tried to list where I read the most slash. However, I couldn't say whether I read more HP or SGA slash currently and that those two are mostly in the lead is more because I don't read a lot of SPN incest, so that fandom is mostly gen and het for me, and other fandoms aren't not as prolific, e.g. there's just less DC slash around to read.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:13 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
So noted. I suppose I could have worded it better.

"A fan of slash" perhaps?

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Date: 2006-05-24 07:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ariestess
That I can honestly remember? First slash fandom was ST:TNG...

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:14 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Who and who, if I may ask?

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Date: 2006-05-24 07:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akite.livejournal.com
I put Star Trek: TOS as my first slash fandom because K/S was the first slash pairing that I ever read, but the first slash pairing I ever wrote was Garak/Bashir from DS9.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:15 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
That was an interesting pair. Too bad Julian dumped Garak for Miles (and really too bad Garak was given that entirely unconvincing romance with Dukat's daughter. I mean, I don't think anyone bought it.)

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Date: 2006-05-24 07:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stasha2g
I got into slash by following links from some original m/m erotica.

I'd always been really into male/male friendships in literature and film, thought. The most re-read bits in my Star Trek books are those dealing with the Kirk/Spock relationship, so 'born a slasher' is not untrue, either.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:16 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Before I found slash on the web, I read stories in alt.sex.stories.motss. They were entirely unsatisfactory - no romance.

But I looked for them, too.

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Date: 2006-05-24 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brak666.livejournal.com
The answer to your question about how I started in slash fandom:

A friend of mine who wasn't really into fanfic mentioned seeing slash on the web, so I went looking for it.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:16 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Nod. My husband actually found my first webslash stories.

He still regrets it. :)

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Date: 2006-05-24 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com
I should note that I'm not sure that Highlander was actually my first slash fandom; it might have been Sentinel. They were very close together, so I'm a bit hazy on the order in which I encountered them. :-) They were very closely following each other.

Also, while SGA is my main current slash fandom, my main fandom right now is Doctor Who involving an OT3 with two men and a woman. Take that how you will.

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Date: 2006-05-24 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruisseau.livejournal.com
I also am seriously Doctor Who right now, but I don't see it as a slash fandom because I've never read a true Doctor/Jack. It's all Doctor/Rose or Doctor/Rose/Jack.

And one really good Doctor/Reinette. Yummm, TEN.

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Date: 2006-05-24 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hecateshound.livejournal.com
My 'other' about how I got into slash fandom, or reading slash, or, er, whatever I answered 'other' about and promised I'd explain? Er... IMO, it's the best-written stuff in my fandom, most of the time. I hope that doesn't annoy any fabulous genwriters out there. But I can't find your work! *snif*

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:21 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
That used to be a given - that if you wanted to be sure of good writing, you'd read the slash stories. I think it's because for a long time, slashers tended to be older than non-slashers. I don't know if that's true anymore.

SG-1 did attract some of the best of the slash writers. I know there's good gen fic out there because [livejournal.com profile] jonbaker reads it, but it leaves me unsatisfied.

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Date: 2006-05-24 09:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aukestrel.livejournal.com
My other for how I found slash - from a link on the TNT due South website to the old archive, Hexwood. I think the 3rd story I clicked on was slash. I went, "Oh! YES! That's it!"

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:22 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Ah. You were home. :)

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Date: 2006-05-24 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] vissy.livejournal.com
My first slash fandom was Star Trek: Voyager. I tripped over 'Command Performance' by Emma Woodhouse by accident not long after I first figured out how to get online, became obsessed with the story and its aliens-made-us-do-it theme, and was delighted to soon find that there was plenty more where that came from. I used to be monogamous but nowadays read in heaps of different fandoms.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:23 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
My first web story was Voyager, if you recall.

Command Performance. Oh, yeah. One of the first and best on that theme.

I remember the Voyager Slash website. *sigh*

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Date: 2006-05-24 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] otherdeb.livejournal.com
I started writing rock slash long before I had a puter.....(isn't that one of the things journals are for?)

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:23 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomalia.livejournal.com
Re: How did I get into slash fandom?
My answer is just a modification on the 5th response in your poll, I think. I realised there seemed like more than friendship between two (male) characters, and that idea was like a fire in my brain. *g* Not because it was sexy, but because I liked both characters so much and they had a great story, and the idea that they might be in love was wonderful. I wanted more of it. I had been aware of slash, vaguely, before that, but no pairing had ever caught my interest. The end result is a LiveJournal and a lot of fic reading and writing.

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:25 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Thank you. So it's more the characters themselves, and not their same sexness that does it for you?

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Date: 2006-05-24 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] isabeau.livejournal.com
Random, and brief, rambling...

The first fandom I wrote a m/m fic for was Buffy. (I had written origfic gen-slash -- basically slash but without sex -- in ST-esque and Pern-esque universes, but those don't count.) But my first slash fandom was TPM -- because it was the first place I was involved with other slash fen, because it was the first time I realized there was a difference between gen and het and slash, because I was predominantly slashy.

I don't really have a current *fandom* per se because I'm not really fannishly involved much of anywhere, but I'm mostly reading/writing sg1/sga stuff. (tpm would be my second current slash fandom)

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Date: 2006-05-25 02:41 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Ahh. The classic "smarm", brought to a high art by TS writers.

Finding the community is key, isn't it?

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Date: 2006-05-25 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytygereyez.livejournal.com
My friend dragged me into the slash field by making me read Angel/Spike stories. That only whetted my appetite and I wanted more. I had just gotten into the X-Men and I enjoyed those stories (Scott/Logan, yum). Reading those stories invariably brought me back into The Sentinel fandom. Is there any pair hotter than Jim and Blair? I think not. I had watched the show way back when but had stopped watching for whatever reason. Reading the good stories brought me back into it full-steam.

I'm also into some Gladiator fic, VC fic, and I always like Duncan/Methos and Jack/Daniel. I'm starting to read some good CSI slash too. I think I'm a junkie for the stuff. The het has to be damned good to capture my interest anymore. *grin*

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Date: 2006-05-25 02:44 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Friend pimpage. Yay!

And Jim and Blair did make a pretty couple, didn't they?

Slash is an addiction.

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Date: 2006-05-25 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byandby.livejournal.com
My first fandom was Harry Potter. I was addicted. Day and night I read it. Oh man, that's been a while. Now, I'm into Horatio Hornblower, and in comparison to HP, I've never met a calmer bunch of people. However, my involvement is minimal as I'm in a period of inactivity in all my fandoms.

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Date: 2006-05-25 02:52 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Harry Potter is insane - I think because it's so HUGE.

And we all go through times like that. In science fiction fandom, we call that gafiating. (Get away from it all)

I think it's necessary.

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Date: 2006-05-25 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnomi.livejournal.com
My first fandom was, oddly enough, Star Trek: Voyager.

Horrible show. Good fic.

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Date: 2006-05-25 02:55 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Voyager. So much wasted potential. Which we explored in fanfic.

As it should be.

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Date: 2006-05-25 04:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thalia
How I got into slash fandom: I did think "they are *so* doing it" after seeing Phantom Menace, but it never occurred to me that anyone else might agree. Not long after, I ran across a link to the Sith Academy, and when they started posting Obi-Wan/Maul stories, I didn't completely freak. SA had a link to the Master-Apprentice archive, and the rest is history.

That last question: I wish it had a "sometimes" option, because lord knows HP can be crack-a-riffic. Mostly, though, my little corner is more or less sane.

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Date: 2006-05-25 06:59 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
I, also, thank the Academy. *grin*

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Date: 2006-05-25 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anoneknewmoose.livejournal.com
As for how I found it, I accidentally came across a Harry/Draco NC17 fic on ff.net and realized, wow, that was good!

And the HP fandom is on so much crack we don't see crack anymore, just air.

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Date: 2006-05-25 02:58 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Huh. I should have included "Stumbled upon it."

And that is so true.

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Date: 2006-05-25 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgan32.livejournal.com
How did you get into slash fandom?

The first slash story I ever read was given to me by a gay male friend who asked my opinion of it as fan fiction without mentioning the content. I was aware slash existed before that but never sought it out. This story was damned good! But this was pre-internet and I had no idea where to start looking for more of the same.

Later when I got on the net, started posting my own gen and het fanfic, I was in HTLJ fandom and there was this fan site for adult/het fic called "After Dark". One of the rules was no slash, with the explanation that there were several huge sites for that already. It was kind of a WTF moment for me because I'd never stumbled across a single one. I don't think I'd ever even run across a mention of HTLJ slash. I went looking. Then sorta dived in and never came back up!

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Date: 2006-05-25 02:59 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Thank you - that is rather more complex than "friend pimpage."

Hercules was sort of meant for slash, though, wasn't it?

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Date: 2006-05-25 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian-black.livejournal.com
I'm a born slasher. I remember watching Sesame Street as a very young child and wondering why Bert and Ernie slept in separate beds. Later, I drew pictures of Batman & Robin (from the cheesy '60s TV show) kissing. I was maybe eight or nine years old, and didn't really understand the mechanics of it all, but boys in love made perfect sense to me.

The first slash I ever wrote where I had a clue about what I was writing was Mick Jagger/David Bowie RPS; I was about 12 or 13.

Is your current fandom on crack?

Since it's Harry potter, I think you need an "OMG are you kidding??!!1! Hell YEAH!!" option. "Yes" just doesn't convey the magnitude of cracktastic batshittery in that fandom... [laughs]

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Date: 2006-05-25 03:03 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
*Grin*

I'm going to have to explain that "crack" thing, because I think there are two different meanings going 'round.

But you, my dear, were very precocious. :)
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