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Take the quiz: "WHAT RELIGION BESTS SUITS YOU?"

Category Unknown
You don't fit into any of the above categories, so perhaps before you get angry or confused, check what other religion(s) you scored the highest on. For example, you might be a Christian-Pagan, or a Discordian-Wiccan. Just use a bit of logic. However, according to this test, you're simply 100% YOU. You don't fit into any of the world's boxes.

Yeah, actually, I *do*. And if I could find an email address for the creator of this quiz, I'd tell hir so.

I just made a comment on this very theme in [livejournal.com profile] imkalena's livejournal.

That the world isn't divided up into Christians, pagans and atheists.

ETA: Found the email address. Emailed hir. Was, unfortunately, *nice*.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohevet-likro.livejournal.com
I took that. I am apparently a fundamentalist Christian. Good to know, don't you think?

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Oh, yes. Indeed.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mz-bstone.livejournal.com
They couldn't peg me either.

In my case, though, they were probably right.

This puts me in mind of explaining why there's no "chapel" non-denominational enough if there's a big honking cross in it when the groom and his family are all, you know, Jewish.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
When my younger brother was planning his first wedding, his fiancee at the time was not Jewish, and neither was her mother or stepfather, but her father was a "Completed Jew" - born Jewish, became born-again Christian. Which meant that all of the groom's family and half of the bride's family were Jewish.

One of the places they'd looked at was a "Chapel of All Faiths" that, yes, featured a big honnking cross.

The wedding unfortunatly never happened and my brother eventually married someone else. In a registry office. Given that my sister-in-law is Catholic, it was probably the right choice. Also, my nephew was born four months later, so they didn't have a long time to *plan*.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roadnotes.livejournal.com
Soren and I are both gagging at the phrase "completed Jew." He'd never seen it before, and finds it completely offensive, as do I.

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:07 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
Yeah, well. Kinda threw my family, too, all those years ago. And, yeah. It is offensive.

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com
It sounds like they think you're missing a toe or something. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkerdave.livejournal.com
If you thought the circumcision was bad, just imagine how they have to reattach things...

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Date: 2004-07-08 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginamariewade.livejournal.com
I've heard they use surgical tape. ;D

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Date: 2004-07-08 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winemedineme.livejournal.com
I've seen it and it *still* makes me gag.

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Date: 2004-07-08 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fernwithy.livejournal.com
That's the first time I've seen it, but AAAAARGH.

My friend Scott habitually refers to them as the "Baptists for Buddha," since it makes as much sense. And the summer when their advertising slogan was "Why not?" we both responded with, "Do you want that alphabetically or chronologically?"

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Date: 2004-07-09 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
Hey, if you base it on how you got married, me & my babe are Notarians... But, yeah, ridiculously limited quiz.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkerdave.livejournal.com
It actually seems from the wording that there is no such thing as Judaism, so I didn't bother.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
Exactly, it looked way too tedious to take to me. Wouldn't mine seeing what happened with a good one though.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
He does live in an interesting universe, doesn't he?

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkerdave.livejournal.com
I know people who live there. It's not actually all THAT interesting.

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Date: 2004-07-08 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanacawyr.livejournal.com
I tried taking it, but couldn't answer the questions. The first one stumped me: "Does God exist?" I kept looking for the response: "Can we please find something relevent to worry about?"

Don't think I'd fit into any of `em ...

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eponis.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's a stupid quiz. Apparently, as a "True Christian," I "normally don't feel church is acceptable for my form of worship." (Given that "Average Christians" also don't go to church, apparently the only people in churches nowadays are Fundamentalists and Holy Rollers.)

I took the quiz a second time, answering as if I was Muslim, and got a strange blend of flavors of Christian, Wiccan, and Unknown. I suppose that anything polytheistic would end up as Unknown by default. Nice to know that, of the world's top nine religious categories (according to the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/statistics/)), all but two are "unknown."

Silly children.

Speaking of religion, though, I keep meaning to ask you about it (by IM or comment). I started looking at your journal after you friended me from nraged wibblechat, and it's always fascinating for me to meet other slashers with strong religious beliefs. What I found interesting about your website was that, although I read your fantastic essays on integrating fannish activity with Orthodox practice, I couldn't find as much about the question of how slash itself fits within Jewish law. I hope I'm not offending you by asking this (and if you've been asked a thousand times, which you probably have, feel free not to answer), but I've recently been asked myself how I integrate slash and beliefs, as a fairly serious Christian, and I'm curious about your response.

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:29 pm (UTC)
ext_2233: Writing MamaDeb (Default)
From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
The fast answer is that I don't. I try to keep those areas of my life as seperate as I keep the two sides of my website.

However - the fact is the Bible does not approve of anal sex. It also doesn't approve of driving on Shabbat or eating bacon. And the penalties are worse for those.

What it doesn't do is regulare *thought*. I can write about what I want and read about what I want. I can have my guys eat huge treif feasts before taking off in their car on a lovely Saturday afternoon and finding a secluded spot to do...things to each other, and I'd be violating nothing. I seriously do not believe that my stories will make any men gay. :)

To make it easier on *me*, I will not slash any religious Jewish character, so I won't write Chaim Potok slash. And I will not take Blair Sandburg and make him religious and then slash him.

(It might be fun to write a gen story where he does tshuva, though.)

And one day I'll write something about the Levitical forbidden relationship laws and how they're designed for a polygynous society.

How do you do it?

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Date: 2004-07-08 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellen-fremedon.livejournal.com
And one day I'll write something about the Levitical forbidden relationship laws and how they're designed for a polygynous society.

Oh, I hope you do! I'd really like to read it.

(I confess, I'd been wondering for a while too about how you balance religion and slash, but was too shy/reticent to ask.)

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Date: 2004-07-08 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
I'd love to see more discussion of how people balance religion and aspects of fandom. I'm an Orthodox Jew too, and I write explicit het (which is also considered wrong to do, even if it isn't the moral/political exploding bomb slash is). I also do write slash, and have been working on my first NC-17 in that genre. (Probably the world's first Ranger/Morelli fic, go me).

And one of my friends is a very religious Christian who writes slash and shounen ai (she sticks to the lower ratings for her personal comfort... I'd be happy to hook you two up though, she has an LJ and I'm sure she's like to discuss it)

Not sure where I'd draw the line with Jewish characters... I mean I wouldn't write Talmud slash or something (sorry for the mental image), but... I don't know. There really aren't any Jewish characters in my fandoms (Harry Potter and anime). (Who's Blair Sandburg)

Blair Sandburg...

Date: 2004-07-08 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacquez.livejournal.com
...is the sidekick in the show The Sentinel. There's a ton of slash for the show, and something like 99.99% of it is Blair/Jim (Jim being the title character).

Most sensible people believe that Blair is Jewish, which might have something to do with him making a joke about his bar mitzvah. :) Some complete idiots think that isn't conclusive at ALL and that clearly he's not even a little bit Jewish.

The fact that non-Jews don't tend to have bar mitzvahs does not seem to faze these people, but since some of them also maintain that Blair would NEVER even TOUCH a gun (he fires guns at people numerous times in canon), I think we can safely dismiss them as either dumb or crazy or both.

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Date: 2004-07-09 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aethereal-girl.livejournal.com
As an Orthodox slasher friend of mine points out, you don't have to write Talmud slash. It's already in the canon, so to speak.

Rabbi Yochanan/Resh Lakish = OTP.

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Date: 2004-07-09 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
I'm officially freaked now because I wanted to mention that particular pairing in my original post (and indeed mentioned it in my LJ ages ago) but I was too afraid to. And I probably still should be, I suppose.

How many Orthodox slashers are there, I wonder? More than I ever expected, it sounds like.

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Date: 2004-07-09 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aethereal-girl.livejournal.com
I'm not one myself. Orthodox, yes; slasher, no. I'll read slash, if it's by an author I like, but I don't seek it out and I don't write it.

I was referring to [Unknown site tag] (although you won't find actual slash on her journal). And yes, there seem to be a good few of you (assuming you are one). You should start an LJ community!

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Date: 2004-07-09 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosehiptea.livejournal.com
Thanks... not sure how to approach someone I don't know, but thanks.

And yes I'd have to count myself, I went from hating slash to reading some of it to actually writing it... not so much yet, but a few things up on ff.net and in LJs. (The few, the proud, the Harry/Ron folks) I'm picky about what I read too of course... though I suppose I do seek it out at least sometimes..

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Date: 2004-07-09 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aethereal-girl.livejournal.com
But, LJ makes it easy to approach people you don't know!

As far as Harry/Ron goes, if you haven't been reading Resonant's stuff, you've been missing out.

Hanging (http://trickster.org/res/hanging.html)
and its companion piece:

The Hang of It (http://trickster.org/res/hang.html)

Of course, her best work is a Harry/Draco novel-length piece: Transfigurations (http://trickster.org/res/transfig.html).

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Date: 2004-07-09 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garnet-scribble.livejournal.com
How many Orthodox slashers are there, I wonder? More than I ever expected, it sounds like.

There are a number of us. In all kinds of different fandoms. Some of us are stealthy, though. Flying under the radar of our communities or our circle of frum friends who wouldn't "get it" or whatever.

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Date: 2004-07-09 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
I'm Orthodox and fannish, but I'm disinterested in slash. I'm not diametrically opposed to it or anything, simply not interested.

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Date: 2004-07-08 08:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mamadeb.livejournal.com
When I get it properly organized.

And, honestly, I'll talk about anything.

"It's a Jewish thing. If you have a few minutes, I'll tell you about it."

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Date: 2004-07-08 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winemedineme.livejournal.com
Okay, you got a HUGE laugh out of me with Chaim Potok slash.

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Date: 2004-07-08 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginamariewade.livejournal.com
You got a laugh *and* a choke from me.

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Date: 2004-07-08 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fernwithy.livejournal.com
Me, too! Sadly, I don't doubt that it exists, and manages to slam the whole Brooklyn community in the process for being all mean to them.

Me, I'm a liberal Jew (or an agnostic, if we go by the little test thing... huh? I totally believe in G-d, kthnxbye!) who can't bring herself to write any brand of smut.

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Date: 2004-07-09 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
And a sweatdrop and a giggle from me. (In that order.)

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Date: 2004-07-11 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginamariewade.livejournal.com
I can have my guys eat huge treif feasts before taking off in their car on a lovely Saturday afternoon and finding a secluded spot to do...things to each other, and I'd be violating nothing.

You mean something like:
"Draco wiped the barbecue sauce from his face with the end of his robe sleeve. The ribs were so sweet and succulent, the meat was just falling off the bone. This new cook, Bubba the House Elf, really knew his way around a pig smoker.
He looked over at Harry, who was sensually sucking the head of a crawfish from his plate of New Orleans Style Etoufee.
'Potter, as soon as I finish my dinner, I'm going to bugger you senseless.'
Harry's face broke out in a wide grin. This was going to be a good night."


(So there's my first attempt at fic, even. :D)

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Date: 2004-07-08 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brak666.livejournal.com
I took it and it called me an Atheist. Which as you know is about as far from the truth as one can get.

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Date: 2004-07-08 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brak666.livejournal.com
ETA: Found the email address. Emailed hir. Was, unfortunately, *nice*.

Let me know what, if any kind of response you get.

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Date: 2004-07-08 08:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] naomichana.livejournal.com
*facepalm* Yeah, that little business of ignoring all the other world religious items apart from the Christian/pagan/atheist spectrum might explain why I got "Pagan/Occultist" as a result on that quiz. (And assuming that spectrum, I figured I'd get some sort of liberal Christian result -- I didn't answer anything about magick or multiple deities, and I find Jesus interesting but not messianic. Turns out my second-choice result was a tie between agnostic, fundamentalist Christian, and "category unknown." Well then.)

Another Orthodox Jew

Date: 2004-07-09 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
I ended up being "Pagan/Occultist". Me, pagan? Well duh. Only in the old sense, ie. "non-Christians". Occultist, on the other hand... *chuckle* ;]

Anyway, it's a pretty stupid quiz, especially the Discordian answers. Discordianism is not the stupid set of beliefs it is made out to be in this test. And most of the answers given made me wince. And where is Judaism? Where is Islam? etcetc.

Maybe you should try the Belief-O-Matic instead. It identified me as either a Reform or an Orthodox Jew last time I filled it out.
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

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